With that being said

jexrry_nam

Senior Member

I’ve been struggling with these two phrases. I’ve always heard people use them.

For instance: (they may be wrong as I don’t really know how to use them properly)

‘With that being said, I think proposal A is more workable.’

I reckon ‘with that being said’ has the meaning of conclusion. To conclude something up.

I have no idea what ‘in saying that’ means.

Could anyone help me?

Thomas Tompion

Member Emeritus

Hello Jexrry Nam,

I don’t know if it helps to say that this is an absolute construction, typically put at the start of a sentence, to introduce a contradictory idea, for instance: suppose a friend asks you if you like reading on Kindle rather than on books, and you say you find it harder to retain detail on Kindle; you might add:

That being said, people enjoy being able to read anything they want, only having to wait a minute for the download.

You acknowledge that you’ve made a reasonable point, but go on to make a point against it. It’s a way of showing people that you can see the advantages and disadvantages of something.

On the other hand, in saying that is a participial construction which means you have to be careful to make the person who is saying that the subject of your sentence. The expression isn’t necessarily concessive either. You might use it to stress other details in support of a point of view:

In saying that, I’m not forgetting the other disadvantages of Kindle, like the strain on the eyes, and the poor sense of moving through the material.

“With That Being Said” – Meaning & Synonyms (+4 Good Examples)

Often, usually during formal conversations, we might hear the phrase “with that being said”. It’s something we hear so often, we often don’t stop to think what it means. But today, I want to look at some of the ways it can be used, and show you using some examples.

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What Does “With That Being Said” Mean?

Usually, “with that being said” means something similar to “On the other hand”, but it can also mean “in conclusion.” The five main ways to use it are comparing the good to the bad, showing understanding, and suggesting ways to improve and to conclude.

Let’s take a look at how you can use this phrase.

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Introduction To The Phrase “With That Being Said”

Before we get into that, we should take a look at the word “said”. Our English teachers tell us never to use this word in school, but in the real world, how we say things are not relevant, what matters is what we say.

As a verb, “said” is the past tense of “say”. But in the sentence “with that being said”, “said” is an adjective.

An adjective is a descriptive word to talk about a noun. In this case “it”, referring to the thing that’s just been said, is the noun, and “said” is the adjective that describes it.

When used as an adjective, “said” is another way of saying “spoken/written”.

4 Examples Of How To Use “With That Being Said”

1. Using “With that being said” to give criticism

One of the most common uses of “with that being said” is just after you’ve finished saying something bad and you now wish to say something good. This is an excellent way of giving criticism as it shows that you don’t just want to tear people down.

Just because you’re criticising someone, that doesn’t mean you need to be nasty to them. “With that being said” allows you to quickly switch from critical to talking about what you like about them or their work.

Let’s take a look at how you can use “with that being said” to heal some emotional wounds you may have created

1. “Your daughter is having real trouble with her homework- she never hands it in! With that being said, in class she always works very hard and produces fantastic work”.

In this example, there is a bad (she doesn’t do her homework) followed by a good (she works hard in class).

2. “Your average sale is lower than the rest of your colleagues. With that being said, you are getting a lot of return customers”.

Here, a boss says that even though this person makes less money per sale, more customers return to him.

2. Using “With that being said” to show that you are not a pushover

You can also do this other way round to talk about something good but follow it up by saying something good. This can allow you to give compliments to people without making you seem like a kiss-ass. It will enable you to emphasise what you like and talk about where you think there is an area for improvement.

Talking about the good first could help you come across as a nicer person than the negative. But following it with “with that being said” can show that you’re not just a yes man.

Here are some examples of how you can use “with that being said” to show you’re not a pushover.

1. “Customers really like you. But with that being said, you need to pick up the speed.”

Here, a boss says to his employee that despite customers liking him, he needs to get faster at his job.

2. “You failed the test, all because you didn’t study. With that being said, your coursework was very high quality.”

In this example, a teacher says to her student that even though she failed an exam, she is happy with the coursework.

It’s very rare for “with that being said” to come up during casual conversations with your friends. Usually, it would be said in more (or at least semi-formal) situations with people such as your boss, bank, court, teachers, and sometimes the news.

Bosses and teachers will usually use it for the reasons we’ve spoken about, to prevent them from coming across as critical for the sake of being critical or to stop them from appearing like a pushover.

Usually, when used in court, it’s to justify your reasons for your actions.

3. Using “With that being said” to justify your actions

“With that being said” can be used to say “I done X, which sounds bad. But the reason I did it is Y”.

This will allow you to seem justified in your actions, as you’re acknowledging the fact something wrong has been done, but you’re giving a valid reason for it.

When using the phrase this way to talk about someone else, you can enable yourself to come across as someone who is understanding and respects the obstacles life throws at people.

It’s often used in court to justify actions that would otherwise be illegal.

1. “Your honour. I should not have driven at the speed I did. With that being said, I had an emergency that I had to attend to”.

The defendant said that he knew he was driving too fast, but he didn’t have much choice.

2. “I don’t like it when people are late, it makes me lose money. With that being said, I saw on the news that there was an accident near your house”.

The boss says that even though he’s not happy about his boss being late, he understands the reasoning behind it.

4. Using “With that being said” to be a better leader

When you’re not happy about something, you can use “with that being said” to show that there is room for improvement and all hope is not lost.

This can prevent you from coming across as rude and overly critical. To use it in this way, the praise and criticism should be somehow related to one another.

You’re not just trying to tear people down and make them feel bad. Your goal is to make sure they sort out their issues and become as productive as you believe they can be. “With that being said” can make you go from bully to guru.

1. “He doesn’t have many friends. With that being said, he also doesn’t have many enemies”.

In this example, the boy might struggle to make friends, but because people don’t tend to dislike him, that can be changed.

2. “I’m unhappy that you didn’t upsell to that customer. With that being said, you did have her wrapped around your finger.”

Here a boss is implying that he should be able to upsell easily because of his employee’s people skills.

3. “The meal took 30 minutes to come out. With that being said, I appreciate how you kept checking up on it for me”.

The customer says that even though her food was late, she likes how her waiter took care of her.

Synonyms For “With That Being Said”

You could say “Having said that”, which has a similar meaning, and similar words. The only thing with this version is that it can’t be used to indicate a conclusion.

When using it as a conclusion, you could also say “So, before I finish”, “to summarise”, or “in conclusion”.

Usually, it would be “with that being said“. But when used as a conclusion, it should be “With that being said”.

Usually, this will come before a call to action. It will make the goodbye seem friendly, and less of a sales pitch. It can be a very persuasive technique.

Here are some examples of how you can use “with that being said” to start a conclusion.

“With that being said, if you need help with marketing, Smith’s Marketing agency can easily be contacted”.

The advertiser says that if you need help with something related to the article, you can contact them.

“And so, with that being said, we will be organising a rally on Saturday.”

Here, the speaker hopes to have convinced you with his previous article/speech to become passionate about the topic, and he wants to see you at the rally.

Conclusion

“With that being said” is commonplace informal settings, be that with your boss, teacher, judge, or another formal setting.

Usually, it will be used to say “Even though X, Y”. This can help you talk about the negatives and positives whilst coming across as neither a bully nor a pushover.

It can be used to say that even though something terrible has happened, there is a valid reason for it. You could use it to show that there is potential for improvement. And finally, it can be used to start a conclusion.

Hopefully, now, you have a better idea of how it can be used, and what it can mean in different circumstances.

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with that all said

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and will all that being said.

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that being said, how old are you

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Кстати, сколько тебе лет

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with that being said, i’ll keep the rest short

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С учётом сказанного, я буду краткой в остальном

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with that said, stand up

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Короче говоря, подъём

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well, that being the case

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Ну, в таком случае

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that being level @num@

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Это, должно быть, будет полезно использовать против боссов позже

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that being said, i will make the attempt.

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А похоже очень что работали.

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how is that being accomplished

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Как это осуществляется

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that being said, we can do anything you want

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Поэтому, мы можем делать все, что ты хочешь

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that being said, we are open to the world.

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Вместе с этим мы открыты миру.

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that being said, her other stats were piss poor

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Тем не менее, её другие характеристики были очень плохими

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that being said, it was only limited to dungeon

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Но это было ограничено только подземельями

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that being said, why is the backlash so strong

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Однако, почему ответная реакция такая сильная

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Но будет ли это проявлением скромности

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«That being so» & «With that said» vs «Having said this»

I know that these words mentioned above aren’t related, however, I wonder why not. As a non-native English speaker it is kind of confusing because both are somehow referring to an antecedent context, at least that is what it seems to me when I read «having said this«. Synonyms of «having said this» are words like ‘although’, ‘nevertheless», ‘despite all that’ et cetera, but again, I cannot see the difference if I read the latter one by one.

Can someone enlighten me?

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In some contexts, there is little difference between the phrases in your question title.

However, they do have different uses and meanings—and other contexts make that clearer.

Here, you are effectively saying, «given that» or «because that is true.»

You will follow this up with something else that can now occur because of the previously stated fact:

Gravity causes unsupported items to fall downward. That being so, when I drop this pen it falls to the floor.

Using a magnifying glass to focus sunlight can intensify its normal effects. That being so, it can be used to burn things.

I normally encounter this phrase as something that follows an obligatory statement and precedes what you really want to say. Or, it can be used as a «disclaimer» for what is to come.

First, I need to thank the Academy. With that said, I’d like to talk a bit about my life and how I got to this point.

English is not my native language. With that said, here’s what I think of the sentence.

(I am changing this to that because it sounds more natural to me. But you can continue to think of it as this if you wish.)

This is normally encountered as a way of almost contradicting what you have just said and continuing on with something that wouldn’t normally follow. You can think of it as «however,» «in spite of that,» or «despite that.»

The path to the left will get me to my destination faster. Having said that, I am going to take the path to the right because it’s more scenic.

I know that I should not be eating dessert instead of dinner. Having said that, I am going to order pie.

If you take my example sentences and replace one phrase with another other, you should see that some no longer make sense at all, while others sound slightly less natural.

Using a magnifying glass to focus sunlight can intensify its normal effects. Having said that, it can be used to burn things.

It sounds a little strange for the second sentence to follow the first in this way.

I know that I should not be eating dessert instead of dinner. That being so, I am going to order pie.

This sounds very strange, and the second sentence doesn’t follow the first at all.

Note that with that said can often be replaced with having said that, but the reverse is not true.

First, I need to thank the Academy. Having said that, I’d like to talk a bit about my life and how I got to this point.

While okay, it’s a bit less natural than the original.

The path to the left will get me to my destination faster. With that said, I am going to take the path to the right because it’s more scenic.

How to use the «that being said»

I sometimes see the phrase «that being said» and I wish to know a little more about it. Especially, when and how can we use this phrase?

Is there a difference if we shorten it to «that said»? In what cases are we allowed to do it?

Is it possible to say the following:

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That being said, that said, having said that all act as segues to a statement which reverses the spin, so to speak, on what has just been said.

We should treat all students with tolerance and understanding. That being said, a student who engages in threatening or violent behavior should be expelled from the school. We cannot tolerate such aggression.

In the sentence above, «That being said» could be replaced with «That said» or «Having said that» without change of meaning.

P.S. The preposition with would be OK with «that being said» and «that said» but not really with «having said that». You cannot use while because while goes with something ongoing, whereas this construction, with past participle said, refers to an act completed.

The use of «that being said» indicates an upcoming caveat, an exception to what has been said, and may be accompanied by an intonation that indicates the speaker intends to make a strong remark, an emphatic remark.

1908 Manitoba Morning Free Press (Electronic text) 1 Aug., The story of Sir James Douglas might have been told in smaller compass… That being said, James Douglas certainly deserved a place among the makers of Canada. (source: Language Log at U Penn)